georges carbiner
(born
about 1800 in Prinzheim, Alsace, France; unknown date and location of death)
is our earliest known Carbiener patriarch. We do not know his parents' names
or his siblings.
However, we do know that Georges' brother had a son named Jacques Carbiener,
born 6/23/1828,
who was a cousin to Georges' son Jean Carbiner. (Jacques Carbiener had a son
Jacques
born in 1852, a grandson Jacques born in 1888, and a great-grandson Georges
born 1911, died 1938.)

georges carbiner married
marguerite barbe faber,
mother of john carbiner.
On August 3, 1822, Marguerite Barbe Faber
Carbiner gave birth to son John (George's first child)
and died shortly after. She lived from 1800-1822. Georges married Catherine
Rehm in 1823,
and John would have two know half-brothers and five unknown half-sisters.
Catherine would be the only mother John would ever know.
The family resided in Prinzheim, Alsace, France. John Carbiener (Jean
Carbiner) is our patriarch.

John Carbiener (Jean Carbiner)
Born 8/3/1822 Printzheim, Alsaas or Alsace, France;
Died 8/22/1894 Bremen, Marshall Co. IN

Scenes from Alsace France that would have been familiar to John Carbiener.


Three Medieval Structures in Alsace
standing for centuries
Three
Views of the Vosges Mountains in Alsace, France;
Below are two views of the city of Printzheim, France, where Jean Carbiner
resided:

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Alsace (and Lorraine), unlike the other French Regions, abound
in both French and German influences. The region is situated in
mid-eastern to north-eastern France. It is bound to the north by
Germany and to the east by the Rhine River (with Germany across
the Rhine), to the south by Switzerland and to the west by the
beautiful Vosges mountains which divide Alsace from Lorraine.
Much of Alsace is found on a fertile plain between the Rhine
River and the Vosges mountains in the west. The lower area that
rises from the Rhine is checkered with vineyards. The higher
slopes are forested and sprinkled with monasteries and old
castles.
john's father georges then married catherine rehm.
Below is information about the two sons of Georges and Catherine Rehm Carbiner: |
john carbiener's 1850 immigration to america:
John Carbiener married Salomi Ortz in
Germany around 1844.
(Salomi was born 1830 Prinzheim, Alsace, France-1856 Union Twp, St. Joseph
Co. IN).
John (27) immigrated in 1850 with Salomi (20), alternate spelling Salome,
and their three children:
Salomi (listed as age 3, but probably born 9/13/1845 or 10/14/1844 in
France, died 10/1/1913 or 10/10/1913
in Wilson KS), George (listed as age 2),
and Marie (listed as age 1) aboard the ship "Gallia" which left
Le Havre, France, and arrived in NYC on May 9, 1850. They emigrated after
stepbrother George
(who emigrated in 1849), and before stepbrother Michael (emigrated in 1869).
[SIDE NOTE: Salomi would die in 1956 at age 26 when her children were young:
Sally would be about 11, John 9, George 8, Marie 7
(these three were born in France), and the yet unborn Daniel (born after
emigration, in Ohio, on 1/16/1853) would be 3
when his mother Salomi died.
They
also had a son named John who was born in 1847 and emigrated
about the same time as his parents and siblings in 1850,
but does not show up on the ship manifest and does not live with them in any
u.s. census we can document.
We have no answers for this mystery.
John would marry Catherine Ott Walmer the year Salomi died, 1956. She would
have four children
from her previous marriages, Mary Ott 1842, Thessia Ott 1844, John 1846 Ott,
and Joseph Walmer 1854;
then she would have five more with John in Indiana: David 1957, Peter 1959,
Samuel 1862, Benjamin 1862, and Emma 1866.]
more Information on John and Salomi's
daughter Salome, later called "Sally":
Daughter
Salome (10/14/1844 or 9/13/1845
France-10/10/1913 Wilson KS) was the second wife of Charles Ferdinand
Schmidt
or Smith (1833 Merseburg, capitol of
Prussia-3/5/1908 Plymouth Twp, Ellsworth KS, buried in Wilson Cemetery)
who immigrated to South Bend IN in 1851
and married Salome in 1864.
Salome or Sally's religious affiliation
was the German Evangelical Church in Indiana.
She moved from South Bend to Kansas in
1876 and her religious affiliation there was the Methodist Episcopal Church.
[Charles' first
wife, Mary Emeline Oyler (1837 OH) gave birth to son Louis Colfax Smith
(7/7/1860 St. Joseph Co. IN-5/9/1938 South Bend IN)
who was a farmer/factory
worker/woodworker and had children Mayme L. (2/22/1888 Union City
IN-9/16/1979 Portland IN) and
Karl Russell (5/23/1893 Mishawaka, St.
Joseph Co. IN-11/5/1970 South Bend, St. Joseph Co. IN).]
Children of Charles Ferdinand
Schmidt and Salome Carbiener were:
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Clara A. Smith (11/20/1865 South Bend
IN-1931 McPherson KS)
who married William H. Bathurst (1862 KS) and had children
Lizzie 1892, William M. 1894, John W. 1896, James E. 1899,
Lillie A. 1901, Pearl F. 1904, Ethel G. 1906. John E. Smith (7/12/1867 South Bend IN) Mary Emma Smith (6/16/1869 South Bend IN) Ella Smith (6/16/1871 South Bend IN) Julius Smith (10/1872 South Bend IN) Ida Salomia Smith (11/28/1874 South Bend IN-10/8/1933 Beaver Co OK) who married Luther Woods Moore (1871 IL), lived briefly in KS, then resided in OK with children Ora D. 1900, Lena M. 1901, Sallie W. 1903, Arthur L. 1905, Herbert H. 1911, Clarence 1913, Ida S. 1914, Willard 1916. Emma Smith (11/30/1876 South Bend IN) Daniel G. Smith (1/18/1880 Wilson KS-6/26/1962 Lucas KS) who married Myrtle Bayas (1881-3/15/1969 Lucas KS) and had children Charles W. 1904, Edna V. 1905 in Lucas, Russell KS. [Note that Salomi's father John Carbiener and his second wife Catherine Carbiener would have sons David and Benjamin as well as Catherine's son Joseph Walmer from her previous marriage who earlier became well-known merchants in Lucas KS.] Charles P. Smith (9/18/1883 Wilson KS-11/21/1969 Salina KS) who married Olive Van Brown (2/10/1883 Nashville TN-3/24/1978 Salinas KS). William Smith (2/15/1886-1965 Omaha NE) married Lillian Josephine Smutney (1887-11/14/1977 Omaha NE). Bertha Jennie Smith (7/19/1888 Wilson KS-12/4/1965 Hunter KS) who married Sidney Wey Tuttle (8/6/1890 Missouri-6/1975 KS) and had children Donald G. 1919, George S. 1922, Wey Jr. 1926. Cora M. Smith (8/2/1891 Wilson KS-3/21/1979 Placerville CA) who married Herman C. Walter (12/30/1892 Wilson KS) and had children Genevieve 1915, Otto B. 1920, and D. Melvin 1920. Cora had divorced Herman before the 1930 U.S. Census. Lydia S. Smith (2/14/1895 Wilson KS-8/17/1984 Lucas KS) who married David L. Cahill (1889-5/27/1958 Lucas KS) and had children Maurice D. 1920 and Mildred E. 1926. |
No information on John and Salomi's other children, George and Marie.
john and salomi carbiener in
america:
John
and Salomi settled in Ohio for about four years, then in 1854 arrived in
Union Twp., St. Joseph Co. IN.
They had a son Daniel 1/16/1853.
(Cutler's Kansas history lists Daniel as partner in Barton & Carbiener
Hardware.
He first came to Wilson, Kansas in the spring of 1877. This would make him a
half brother of Samuel.)
Salomi died in 1856, possibly in childbirth.
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john carbiener (8/3/1822 Alsace, France - 8/11/1894 St. Joseph Co. IN) ![]() |
John
Carbiener was born in Printzheim, Alsace, France, the son of Georges
Carbiener and Marguerite Barbe Faber. John's mother Marguerite died
in childbirth or shortly after.
John Carbiener
probably had five children from his marriage to Salomi before she
died in 1956: +John Carbiener had a son
John born 1/18/1847 in Wurttemberg near Strasburg, Alsace, Germany,
and died 11/23/1924 at the home of his son Joseph in Sumption
Prairie). [Strasbourg, Alsace, was about 30 miles from the French
border. In 1847, Alsace was under French rule. Wurttemberg is the
German state that borders Alsace.] In 1870 Census, this son John is
listed as age 22 and living/working on the farm of Andrew Longley.
See more information later under Catherine Buhler and
Fredericka Soloma "Hattie" Buhler, who married this John Carbiener. |
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