Carbiener Genealogy 1800
traced from father georges carbiner 1800-Unknown
through his son john carbiner/carbiener 1822-1894
and john's first wife, salomi ortz 1820-1856

then traced from john carbiener 1822-1894 and second wife, catharine zinzinca ott walmer 1856-1891


georges carbiner

(born about 1800 in Prinzheim, Alsace, France; unknown date and location of death)
is our earliest known Carbiener patriarch. We do not know his parents' names or his siblings.
However, we do know that Georges' brother had a son named Jacques Carbiener, born 6/23/1828,
who was a cousin to Georges' son Jean Carbiner. (Jacques Carbiener had a son Jacques
born in 1852, a grandson Jacques born in 1888, and a great-grandson Georges born 1911, died 1938.)

georges carbiner married marguerite barbe faber,
mother of john carbiner.

On August 3, 1822, Marguerite Barbe Faber Carbiner gave birth to son John (George's first child)
and died shortly after. She lived from 1800-1822. Georges married Catherine Rehm in 1823,
and John would have two know half-brothers and five unknown half-sisters.
Catherine would be the only mother John would ever know.
The family resided in Prinzheim, Alsace, France. John Carbiener (Jean Carbiner) is our patriarch.

 


John Carbiener (Jean Carbiner)
Born 8/3/1822 Printzheim, Alsaas or Alsace, France;
Died 8/22/1894 Bremen, Marshall Co. IN

La Petit France Strasbourg
Scenes from Alsace France that would have been familiar to John Carbiener.

Medieval Houses in Strasburg, France
Infamous Bridge in Lucerne, Switzerland
Three Medieval Structures in Alsace standing for centuries

Lake of Pierre Perηιe - Vosges - France Col of the Schlucht - Vosges - France Lake of Kruth Wildenstein - Vosges - France 
Three Views of the Vosges Mountains in Alsace, France;
Below are two views of the city of Printzheim, France, where Jean Carbiner resided:

Printzheim Printzheim

Alsace (and Lorraine), unlike the other French Regions, abound in both French and German influences. The region is situated in mid-eastern to north-eastern France. It is bound to the north by Germany and to the east by the Rhine River (with Germany across the Rhine), to the south by Switzerland and to the west by the beautiful Vosges mountains which divide Alsace from Lorraine. Much of Alsace is found on a fertile plain between the Rhine River and the Vosges mountains in the west. The lower area that rises from the Rhine is checkered with vineyards. The higher slopes are forested and sprinkled with monasteries and old castles.

john's father georges then married catherine rehm.
catherine rehm was born about 1800 in alsace, france.

Georges and Catherine had seven children:
Georges Carbiner 10/29/1823 (obituary below)
Catherine Carbiner 4/17/1825
Marguerite Carbiner 9/28/182?
Catherine Carbiner 7/3/1830
(perhaps the first Catherine died)
Michel Carbiner 3/6/1833
Marguerite Carbiner 4/10/1835
(perhaps the first Marguerite died)
Marie Carbiner 5/29/1837


Their two sons, Georges II (10/28/1823 Alsace, Germany - 12/10/1897 St. Joseph Co. IN) and Michel (3/6/1833 France - 8/15/1886 Marble Rock, Floyd, Iowa) emigrated to NYC. Georges II was single when he emigrated to the U.S. in 1849, resided in eastern Ohio in 1850, and  married Catherine Siefer in 1851, settling in Union, St. Joseph Co. IN near Lakeville. His brother Michel came to America in about 1853, residing in Indiana two years, then in 1855 to Illinois (near Frankfort) where he resided seven years. In the 1860 U.S. Census (listed as Michael Carevena) he resides in Ridott, Stephenson, Illinois with Mary in the home of the John Kercher family, for whom he was a laborer. (He married Mary Ann Hammon in 1860, possibly in Germany.) Michael and Mary Ann moved about 1862 to Floyd Co., Iow
a where he purchased 300 acres and created a fine farm. See details in Michael's section following information about George.

George Carbiener 1823

None of the other relatives were on the passenger list with John, wife Salomi and children George, Salomi, and Marie for the spring sailing of the Gallia in 1850. Gladys Carbiener said the males immigrated to the U.S., but at least two sisters remained in Alsace as nuns. Karol Carbiener (Mrs. Dean Carbiener) has been in the Archives in Strasbourgh and examined microfilm. In that time frame, there were no "forms", just a quill dipped in ink, written in French/German.

Below is information about the two sons of Georges and Catherine Rehm Carbiner:


George Carbiner
(10/28/1823 Alsace, Germany - 12/10/1897 in St. Joseph Co. IN)

George probably emigrated at age 26 to NYC in 1849 (found document in Ancestry.com that appears to be him. Immigrants to New York from 1850-1897 were not indexed.) He moved to eastern Ohio in 1850. In Indiana in 1851, George then married Catherine Siefer (6/10/1828 Germany - 6/30/1869 St. Joseph Co. IN). They raised a family in Union, St. Joseph Co. IN.

In 1860 U.S. Census, George (36) resided with Catherine (31), Mary (10 OH), Jacob (7 OH), George (5 OH), Catharine (3 IN), Elizabeth (2 IN), and Hellen (1 mos. IN) "Corbaner" near Lakeville.

Cannot locate the family in 1870. Catherine was deceased by the 1880 U.S. Census. George (56) was widowed, residing with George W. (24), Elizabeth (21), Anna (19), Sarah (17), William (15), and Matilda (13) in St. Joseph Co. IN. George died 12/10/1897 in St. Joseph Co. IN.


george and catherine siefer carbiner children:

mary carbiner (1850)

jacob carbiner (born 5/1852 OH) married Susan (born 6/1851 OH) in 1825. They moved to Indiana in 1860 and to Bremen, Marshall Co. IN by 1900. Children: Clarence (1852 IN), Nora L. (7/1880 IN), Arthur Jacob (1/5/1883 IN), Earl G. (3/31/1886) who married Blanche.

Jacob-Carbiener-1852-obit

George W. carbiner (Carbiener) (8/7/1854-5/16/1937), who married Lydia Enders (born 1865 IN) on 10/18/1885 in St. Joseph Co. IN. Their three children were Oliver, Hattie and Ervin George Carbiener. Lydia may have died around 1892. (Ervin's obituary specifically names Lydia Enders as his mother.)
George then married Elizabeth "Lizzie" Rowe (born 1/7/1872 Elkhart Co., IN-1/29/1959 Bremen, Marhsall Co., IN). Their three children were Charles Franklin, Fredrick Welcome, and Dorothy Carbiener.

George Carbiener 1854 and Lizzie Rowe Carbiener
George Carbiener (b.1854) with second wife Elizabeth "Lizzie" Rowe Carbiener

George Carbiener 1854 obitElizabeth Rowe Carbiener obit 

George's children were:
Oliver (3/21/1887 IN-1/1978 AZ) who married Pearl Wynn and lived in Bremen, Marshall Co. IN then resided in Phoenix 30 years (obit below);
Hattie (8/1888 IN),
Ervin George (1/27/1890 IN-7/1974) who was a farmer and insurance agent who married Rebecca E. and had a daughter Helen W. Resided in Marshall Co. IN and married James Kline (neighbor of Marie Johnson Pittman and Evart Pittman). Ervin's obituary below documents that his mother was Lydia Enders.
Charles Franklin (5/10/1893 IN who married Ruth Fay Birk (born 1898 IN); their children were Blaine (12/3/1916 IN-8/271927 Cuyahoga OH) who married and enlisted in WWII, Homer (born 1918 IN) who married and enlisted in WW II as a toolmaker, Eldon E. (born 3/12/1919 IN-7/30/1993 Tucson AZ who married Audrey M. Carroll on 5/18/1963 in Santa Clara, CA), June 1922 IN, Keith Kenyon (born 4/27/1923 Bremen IN-1/25/2008 *whose obit follows);
Fredrick Welcome (6/26/1895 IN-10/29/1968 Los Angeles CA) in 1916 married Ethel Marie Moore (2/14/1894 IN-1/25/1985 Ventura CA)--wedding photo below, then 50th anniversary with corsage in center of photo below, and had these children: Norma (9/11/1918, died 23 days later, buried in Bremen Cemetery, Marshall Co., IN); George (1919-1994 buried next to Norma/no children); Velma (10/17/1920 South Bend IN-8/13/2007 Ventura CA, photo below/no children) who married Ivan Stearns Cade (1916-1980) in Encino CA on 6/1940; John (3/11/1922-8/5/2001) who married Dorothy (died 2001) and had children Jimmy, Diann, John Jr. and Mark; Kenneth M. (3/11/1923 IN-4/22/1993 Los Angeles CA/no children); Marion (1927-2008) who married Mary (died 3/2009) and has living children Linda and Greg in 2011; Marjorie (5/16/1934, still living in 2011) who married Robert Richardson on 9/17/1950 (Robert 1/4/1930-10/31/2009) and have four children, Robert, Kathleen, Michael, Kenneth; and Darland Devon (born 1940) who has one child, John Carbiener.
Dorothy (1905 IN) married Warren Miller.

Fredrick and Ethel Carbiener


 
Velma Marie Carbiener Cade (daughter of Frederick Welcome Carbiener)

 

 

 

keith k carbiener
April 27, 1923 - Jan. 25, 2008
SOUTH BEND - Keith K. "Big C" Carbiener, 84, of South Bend, passed away at 1:15 p.m. Friday, January 25, 2008, in his residence. Keith was born April 27, 1923, in Bremen, IN, to the late Charles and Ruth (Birk) Carbiener. He was also preceded by two stepchildren, and two brothers, Blaine and Eldon Carbiener. On December 3, 1944, in South Bend, Keith married Dorothy L. Myers, who passed December 27, 1971. On March 30, 1973, in South Bend, Keith married Barbara (Patton) Pinter, who survives. Also surviving are a daughter, Judy L. Delaney of Holyoke, MA; sons, Terry K. (Sallie) Carbiener of Sawyer, MI, Kevin K. Carbiener of South Bend; a stepson, Richard E. (Vicki) Pinter of South Bend; nine grandchildren, six great-grandchildren and three step-grandchildren; a sister, June (Paul) Stump of North Liberty; two brothers, Homer Carbiener of Phoenix, AZ, and Charles (Geri) Carbiener of Orlando, FL. After Keith's return from the Army Air Corps, he went into the construction business which led to the Keith K. Carbiener Construction Company, which built many local restaurants and service stations in the area. In his spare time he farmed 300 acres and raised the best beef around, and that was where he was the happiest. After retiring from farming, he moved on to helping grow the "paint business," Olde Century Colors, in which he was a moving force. Keith was also a member of Westminster Presbyterian Church, St. Joseph Lodge #45, was a past master, Scottish Rite Valley of South Bend, Orak Shrine Temple, South Bend Shrine Club and St. Joseph Valley Eastern Star. Friends may visit with the family from 4 to 7 p.m. Monday, Jan. 28, in the Welsheimer Family Funeral Home, 521 N. William St., South Bend, IN, where a Masonic memorial service will be recited at 6 p.m. Friends may also visit with the family one hour prior to the funeral service, which will be held at 11:00 a.m. Tuesday, Jan. 29, in the Westminster Presbyterian Church, 1501 W. Cleveland Road, South Bend, IN 46628, with Rev. Karen Brugler officiating. Burial will follow at Southlawn Cemetery, South Bend.

Ervin Carbiener obit

CATHARINE CARBINER (1857) who married Peter Berger (11/1852 IN) and had children
▪ Ollie P (b. 7/1833);
▪ Fred (12/1887 Kansas) who married Clara Anna Blaser (4/13/1887 KS-5/1979 KS) and had children Orville F. and Floyd W. Berger.
▪ Hazel (11/12/1895 KS-5/16/1982 Bremen, Marshall Co., IN) who married Noble B. Nusbaum (1898 IN-7.1972) and had children Allen David, Martha Kathryn, and Janet E. Nusbaum. [Janet married James Jacob Pittman (12/10/1932 IN-10/11/2007 KS) on 11/16/1958 and had daughter Jean Alice--see Pittman Genealogy.]
Freeda K. (7/7/1898 KS-10/16/1996) who married Willis Link Dietrich (12/12/1895 Bremen, Marshall Co., IN-2/10/1955 Bremen, Marshall Co. IN). Obituary follows:

Willis Link Dietrich obituary
Freeda Berger Dietrich Obituary

Elizabeth Hellen CARBINER (1859);

Anna CARBINER (1861);

Sarah CARBINER (1863);

William
CARBINER (1864 St. Joseph Co. IN - 1938 Marshall Co. IN) who married Nellie Knoblock (1865-1938 Marshall Co. IN) and had a daughter Bertha (born 1891), and a son Harmon G. (born 4/3/1891 Marshall Co. IN - 4/21/1962 Bremen IN) who married Pearl Mae Berg (6/13/1859 Marshall Co. IN - 10/9/1973 Bremen IN) on 1/2/1917 and had a son John William Carbiener (4/6/1919 Marshall Co. IN-2/6/1978 Manitee FL) who married Ina Belle Manges;

William Carbiener 1864 obit

Matilda CARBINER (8/1865-3/1936 born and died in Baughman, Wayne, OH). She married John William Rehm 10/18/1862-4/13/1944) and had daughters Bertha Grace and Ethel Fay.
 

Michael Carbiener or "Michel Carbiner" was born 3/6/1833 in Prinzheim, Alsace, France - died 8/15/1886 in Marble Rock, Floyd, Iowa). His wife Mary Hammon was born 5/9/1834 in Germany - died 1/7/1886 in Marble Rock, Floyd, Iowa. He settled first in Indiana, then Illinois, then Iowa. See details in history below. He and Mary Ann married in 1860 and had 12 children. They settled in Union, Floyd, Iowa in 1870 U.S. Census. His name was misspelled as Carbiner, Carevena, Carbaner, Carpenter, Corpenna in the U.S. Census records, but his Iowa cemetery death record name spelling is correct.

In 1880 U.S. Census "Micheal Carbaner" (47) resided with Mary (47), Sarah (17), George (15), Marggaret (13), Jacob (13), Lizzie (11), Micheal (9), Loui (8), Frederick (4), and William (2). Iowa State Census records for 1885 are posted on Ancestry.com. Mary died in January of 1886 and Michael died in August of 1886 in Marble Rock, Floyd, Iowa.


Michael and mary carbiener children:

Mary C. CARBIENER (1/8/1861 Iowa-1940 Marble Rock Iowa) married William Theiman (7/11/1850 Germany-1/1940 Marble Rock, Iowa) on 1/16/1879 in Marble Rock, Iowa. Their children were:
▪ Fred ( born 1881 Iowa) who married Alma Gunderson (7/1883 Iowa-5/30/1940 Marble Rock, Iowa) and had children Lillian Augusta (10/28/1910 who married a Sheeley), Grace Elizabeth (2/1913 Iowa) who married Robert Hugh Hindersman (11/17/1916 Los Angeles, CA-4/14/2005 Los Banos CA who served in Navy in WWII), and Paul Harris (11/1914)--photos of Grace and Paul below;

Lillian and Grace Thieman

Lillian & Grace, Grace, Paul Thieman

▪ Anna (11/1885 Iowa);
▪ Dora M. (3/17/1887 Iowa-7/19/1974 Iowa) who in 1904 married George Martin Ackley (12/23/1881 Iowa-11/3/1957 Iowa) and had children Elroy Luther (1/24/1905 Iowa-11/2/1974 Iowa); Cecil Milo (1906-1950 Iowa) who married Francis Pearl Barr (1906 MN-1950 Iowa) and had daughter LaVonne Kathryn (9/5/1931-6/2000 Iowa); and Lorraine Kinsey who married Dayle E. Vorhes (born 1904 Iowa) and had children Betty,  Dean and Patricia Rae.
▪ Ario or Arris (12/1888 Iowa);
▪ Clyde John (9/5/1892 Iowa City, Iowa-12/1967 Marble Rock, Floyd, Iowa) who married Anna M. (born 1900);
▪ Earl (1/17/1902 Iowa City, Wright, Iowa-8/1984 Marble Rock, Floyd, Iowa) who married Margaret (born 1911).

john CARBIENER (3/6/1862) Died at birth.

SaraH a. CARBIENER (4/5/1863 IL-9/2/1946 Los Angeles CA) went to Algona College in Iowa. She married Earnest F. Schrab, a house carpenter, born 8/1855 in Germany (his parents were from Germany). Children:
▪ Earnest Jr. (5/31/1885 Iowa-1920 WW1) who married Ethel Maud (9/26/1889 CA-10/1984 Phoenix AZ); and had children Wilfred Francis (6/28/1908 AZ-12/6/1999 Phoenix AZ) and Ernest (1911 AZ). Ethel remarried to Aaron M. Etheridge, born 1891 TX, and had Ethel Maud (9/26/1889 CA-10/1984 Phoenix AZ);
▪ Edith (4/1887 Iowa);
▪ Emma (4/1890 AZ);
▪ Ella (12/1892 AZ);
▪ Bertha (12/1894 AZ);
▪ Frederick John (6/19/1899 AZ-6/23/1957 Los Angeles CA).

GeorgE CARBIENER (4/23/1864 IL-1918 IOWA) possibly married an Ella.

Margaret CARBIENER (5/26/1865 IL) 1n 1889 married Folkert Boone (born about 1864 in Germany) and had children William H. Boone (6/26/1889 Iowa), Wayne F. (1895 Iowa), and Clifton F. (1900 Iowa).

Jacob CARBIENER (2/23/1867 Marble Rock, Iowa-9/17/1925 Marble Rock, Iowa) married Lilla Eldora "Matilda or Tillie" Mills (1/21/1868 Marble Rock Iowa-10/1/1912). Son Johnnie lived a few days; son Clyde lived a year. Double wedding on 11/10/1888 in Floyd, Iowa: Lilla Mills married Jacob Carbiener at same time as her brother Ulysses Mills married Elizabeth "Lizzie" Carbiener! Ulysses and Lilla Mills were siblings; Jacob and Elizabeth "Lizzie" Carbiener were also siblings.

Jacob Carbiener

EMMA CARBIENER (7/1/1868) Died at birth.

Elizabeth "Lizzie" CARBIENER (12/29/1869 Marble Rock, Floyd, Iowa - 11/22/1957 Rockford Iowa) who on 11/10/1888 married Ulysses Samuel Mills (4/14/1866 Marble Rock, Floyd Iowa-3/23/1937 Marble Rock, Floyd Iowa) and had the following children:
▪ Lewis Grant (4/29/1890 Marble Rock, Iowa-1/23/1946 Marble Rock Iowa) who on 10/20/1915 in Iowa married Cora Bell Freeman (12/30/1890 Grand Meadows, Mower, MN- 1/20/1969 Marble Rock Iowa). Children were Percy Allen (9/5/1916 Marble Rock Iowa-1/1977 Rockford IL) who married Lois Frances Lund (9/14/1917 Rockford IL-3/12/1987 Rockford IL) and had a son Thomas Eugene (9/9/1938 stillborn, Rockford IL), as well as other children; Arlin Genevieve (3/2/1918 Marble Rock Iowa) who married Martin Alfred Bunker (11/26/1917 NH) and had son Christopher D. (12/20/1954 Lacrosse WI-1/1976 Minneapolis MN); Frank Dawes; and Harry Lewis (6/7/1919 Marble Rock, Iowa) who married Catherine Alice Pugh (12/1/1920 Rockford IL-3/18/2005 Machesney Park IL) and had daughter Sue who married Roger Yurs, and sons Earl and Arthur Allen (9/10/1945 Rockford IL-6/11/1999 MN) who preceded Catherine in death;
▪ Zoe Louisa (6/4/1895 Marble Rock, Iowa-6/24/1963 Marble Rock, Iowa) who married Guy Edmond Barber (9/8/1893 Floyd, Iowa-8/12/1970 Charles City, Iowa) and had daughter Viola (7/30/1920-12/18/1999) who married Oswald Johnson (7/29/1912);
▪ Roe Luella (8/23/1895 Marble Rock, Iowa-11/12/1958 Salem, Oregon) who married Harry A. Ward (2/2/1893 Milo, Iowa - 3/22/1959 Salem, Oregon) and had daughter Loretta Alberta (1919 Iowa);
▪ Verl Sidney (5/30/1904 Marble Rock, Iowa-3/3/1949 Marble Rock, Iowa) who married Ruth Little on 4/20/1935.

 
Mother Elizabeth "Lizzy" Carbiener with children Zoe, Verl, Roe, and her husband Ulysses Mills

Michael CARBIENER
(1/22/1871 Iowa-6/9/1943 Los Angeles CA) who married Lillian O. Packman (9/6/1876 Iowa-11/24/1940 Los Angeles CA) and had daughter Doris (1915 Iowa).

lewis CARBIENER (3/6/1872 Iowa-1928 Marble Rock, Iowa) married Margaret (born 1879 Germany) and had son Clyde D. (1897 Iowa). He and Margaret divorced before 1920. He was an auto driver in a garage in 1920.

Frederick CARBIENER (8/8/1875 Iowa) married Anna (born about 1878, father from Canada, mother from Germany). They had Edward (born 1899 Iowa) and Pearl M. (born 1908 Iowa).

William or wilhelm martin CARBIENER (3/7/1877 Iowa). When he was 22, both parents Michael and Mary died. William married Vera Evelin Leaman (1/1879 Iowa) and had children Thelma M. (3/1898 Iowa); Mary A. (2/1900); Marvin D. (9/24/1902-5/23/1973 Ft Myers, FL) who married Aruella (1902 Iowa); and Dorothy P. (1905 Iowa).

History of Floyd County, Iowa
Chicago: Inter-state Publishing Co., 1882.
Union Township
submitted by Kathy Gerkins

Michael Carbiener Pages 1094 – 1095
Was born in France in 1833. He was a son of George and Catharine Carbiener. At about the age of twenty he came to America, locating first in Indiana, where he resided about two years, when he went to Illinois, near Frankfort; there he lived about seven years. At this date he came to Iowa, locating in Floyd County, purchasing his farm of 300 acres, where he still resides, on section 15, about one and one-half miles southeast of Marble Rock. This farm is one of the finest in the county. It is beautifully situated, presenting one of the grandest views of the surrounding county we ever saw. Mr. Carbiener has, by his own hard labor, cleared the farm of rocks and grubs, and turned it from a wild, raw prairie, to a beautiful farm, all being under a splendid state of cultivation. He built a fine house and barn, and with nicely arranged shade trees has his surroundings beautified so that he has one of the nicest homes in the Northwest. He puts in crop, yearly, about 270 acres. A portion he farms himself, and rents a part, besides keeping from eight to ten head of horses and colts, and from twenty to twenty-five head of cattle, and from forty to fifty head of hogs, some years even exceeding this number. Mr. Carbiener was married in 1860 to Mary Hammon, a native of France. They have ten children – Mary, married to William Theman, and resides five miles west of Marble Rock; Sarah, George, Margaret, Jacob, Elizabeth, Michael, Lewis, Fredrick and William. The nine younger children still reside at home. Both Mr. and Mrs. Carbiener are members of the German Lutheran church. Politically, we are pleased to say that Mr. Carbiener always votes for the best man, if he knows him, but when it comes to State or United States election he votes the Democratic ticket. Mr. Carbiener is among those men who helped lay the successful and solid foundation to the history of Floyd County. He is a man who has been very successful, and has by his own exertions placed himself among the sound, able and wealthy farmers of our county. Not only this, but he has the best word and wishes of all his neighbors and is social and pleasant to all, and has a host of friends.

A undocumented possibility: Georges and Catherine Rehm carbiner,
John's father and stepmother, George and Michael's parents, may have emigrated to America. A Mr. and Mrs. Georges "Charpentier", both age 75 (born about 1795) left Le Havre, France, and emigrated to America, arriving 5/20/1870 NYC on the ship "Lafayette". They are not found in the 1880 U.S. Census, so may have died in that ten year period. Carbiener was misspelled every which way in all the documents I examined, so we cannot be sure.

john carbiener's 1850 immigration to america:

John Carbiener married Salomi Ortz in Germany around 1844.
(Salomi was born 1830 Prinzheim, Alsace, France-1856 Union Twp, St. Joseph Co. IN).

John (27) immigrated in 1850 with Salomi (20), alternate spelling Salome, and their three children:
Salomi (listed as age 3, but probably born 9/13/1845 or 10/14/1844 in France, died 10/1/1913 or 10/10/1913 in Wilson KS), George (listed as age 2)
, and Marie (listed as age 1) aboard the ship "Gallia" which left Le Havre, France, and arrived in NYC on May 9, 1850. They emigrated after stepbrother George (who emigrated in 1849), and before stepbrother Michael (emigrated in 1869).

[SIDE NOTE: Salomi would die in 1956 at age 26 when her children were young: Sally would be about 11, John 9, George 8, Marie 7 (these three were born in France), and the yet unborn Daniel (born after emigration, in Ohio, on 1/16/1853) would be 3 when his mother Salomi died.
They also had a son named John who was born in 1847 and emigrated about the same time as his parents and siblings in 1850, but does not show up on the ship manifest and does not live with them in any u.s. census we can document. We have no answers for this mystery.

John would marry Catherine Ott Walmer the year Salomi died, 1956. She would have four children from her previous marriages, Mary Ott 1842, Thessia Ott 1844, John 1846 Ott, and Joseph Walmer 1854; then she would have five more with John in Indiana: David 1957, Peter 1959, Samuel 1862, Benjamin 1862, and Emma 1866.]


more Information on John and Salomi's daughter Salome, later called "Sally":

Daughter Salome (10/14/1844 or 9/13/1845 France-10/10/1913 Wilson KS) was the second wife of Charles Ferdinand Schmidt
or Smith (1833 Merseburg, capitol of Prussia-3/5/1908 Plymouth Twp, Ellsworth KS, buried in Wilson Cemetery)
who immigrated to South Bend IN in 1851 and married Salome in 1864. Salome or Sally's religious affiliation was the German Evangelical Church in Indiana.
She moved from South Bend to Kansas in 1876 and her religious affiliation there was the Methodist Episcopal Church.

[Charles' first wife, Mary Emeline Oyler (1837 OH) gave birth to son Louis Colfax Smith (7/7/1860 St. Joseph Co. IN-5/9/1938 South Bend IN)
who was a farmer/factory worker/woodworker and had children Mayme L. (2/22/1888 Union City IN-9/16/1979 Portland IN) and
Karl Russell (5/23/1893 Mishawaka, St. Joseph Co. IN-11/5/1970 South Bend, St. Joseph Co. IN).]

Children of Charles Ferdinand Schmidt and Salome Carbiener were:

• Clara A. Smith (11/20/1865 South Bend IN-1931 McPherson KS) who married William H. Bathurst (1862 KS) and had children Lizzie 1892, William M. 1894, John W. 1896, James E. 1899, Lillie A. 1901, Pearl F. 1904, Ethel G. 1906.
• John E. Smith (7/12/1867 South Bend IN)
• Mary Emma Smith (6/16/1869 South Bend IN)
• Ella Smith (6/16/1871 South Bend IN)
• Julius Smith (10/1872 South Bend IN)
• Ida Salomia Smith (11/28/1874 South Bend IN-10/8/1933 Beaver Co OK) who married Luther Woods Moore (1871 IL), lived briefly in KS, then resided in OK with children Ora D. 1900, Lena M. 1901, Sallie W. 1903,  Arthur L. 1905, Herbert H. 1911, Clarence 1913, Ida S. 1914, Willard 1916.
• Emma Smith (11/30/1876 South Bend IN)
• Daniel G. Smith (1/18/1880 Wilson KS-6/26/1962 Lucas KS) who married Myrtle Bayas (1881-3/15/1969 Lucas KS) and had children Charles W. 1904, Edna V. 1905 in Lucas, Russell KS. [Note that Salomi's father John Carbiener and his second wife Catherine Carbiener would have sons David and Benjamin as well as Catherine's son Joseph Walmer from her previous marriage who earlier became well-known merchants in Lucas KS.]
• Charles P. Smith (9/18/1883 Wilson KS-11/21/1969 Salina KS) who married Olive Van Brown (2/10/1883 Nashville TN-3/24/1978 Salinas KS).
• William Smith (2/15/1886-1965 Omaha NE) married Lillian Josephine Smutney (1887-11/14/1977 Omaha NE).
• Bertha Jennie Smith (7/19/1888 Wilson KS-12/4/1965 Hunter KS) who married Sidney Wey Tuttle (8/6/1890 Missouri-6/1975 KS) and had children Donald G. 1919, George S. 1922, Wey Jr. 1926.
• Cora M. Smith (8/2/1891 Wilson KS-3/21/1979 Placerville CA) who married Herman C. Walter (12/30/1892 Wilson KS) and had children Genevieve 1915, Otto B. 1920, and D. Melvin 1920. Cora had divorced Herman before the 1930 U.S. Census.
• Lydia S. Smith (2/14/1895 Wilson KS-8/17/1984 Lucas KS) who married David L. Cahill (1889-5/27/1958 Lucas KS) and had children Maurice D. 1920 and Mildred E. 1926.

No information on John and Salomi's other children, George and Marie.

Cunard Line steamship GALLIA
This engraving of the 1878 ship Gallia (Cunard Line) may have been similar to the
1850 Gallia taken by John Carbiener and his family from France to America.

Cunard Line steamship GALLIA
This old engraving was printed in "The Graphic" in 1879. It shows sailors at work on deck of the Cunard Line steamer Gallia while crossing the Atlantic ocean. On this picture you can clearly see the BRIDGE of the ship. In the old days the bridge was actually a bridge, from where the commanding officer had a good overview and could shout his orders to all parts of the ship. Being on the bridge was quite a struggle in bad weather as the men on it were not protected like on modern ship today.

Cunard Line steamship GALLIA
The saloon aboard the ship


You can see on the ship manifest the name of Carbiner, Jean (27). Underneath are listed Salomi (20), Salomi (3), George (2), Marie (1). These ages are probably incorrect. We believe Salomi was 30 and Salomi was 5.

Why Did They Leave France? In 1848 Louis Philippe was driven from the throne and a provisional government set up "national workshops" to reduce unemployment. The French national assembly opposed the workshops, and as a result workmen, newspaper journalists, students and some of the young men of the aristocratic class began an uprising in June of 1848. They threw up barricades in the narrow alleys of Paris and fought hand to hand. 30,000 soldiers from all of the provinces were sent in and the rebellion was crushed with unbelievable bloodshed. The play "Les Miserables" is based on this 1848 revolution.

In the small province of Strasbourg (which is in Alsace) lived a carpenter, Francois Xavier Pequigney, with his wife and twin children. Strasbourg was a meeting point for trade routes and its name means "town of roads". Strasbourg was first a Roman province, then the Germans invaded, and then the French. In 1848 Strasbourg was under French rule. After the rebellion of 1848, Francois decided to take his wife and babies and leave the land of their birth. His cousin, Francois X. Grisez had left Strasbourg ten years earlier. He had written about the new country of America where he was free to make a living and was not continuously oppressed by the government. In 1851 over 20,000 French immigrants left France for America. Many were political refugees fleeing from the failed 1848 revolution. Economic depression and crop failures from the preceding three years was a great contributor to the French immigration to America. Most of the immigrants set sail from the port of Le Harve, France. The Gallia made two crossings in 1850, one that arrived in NYC on January 7, 1850; the other on May 9, 1850. John and his family were on the second passage.

john and salomi carbiener in america:

John and Salomi settled in Ohio for about four years, then in 1854 arrived in Union Twp., St. Joseph Co. IN.
They had a son Daniel 1/16/1853. (Cutler's Kansas history lists Daniel as partner in Barton & Carbiener Hardware.
He first came to Wilson, Kansas in the spring of 1877. This would make him a half brother of Samuel.)
Salomi died in 1856, possibly in childbirth.

john carbiener
(8/3/1822 A
lsace, France - 8/11/1894 St. Joseph Co. IN)

John Carbiener 1822 obit
John Carbiener was born in Printzheim, Alsace, France, the son of Georges Carbiener and Marguerite Barbe Faber. John's mother Marguerite died in childbirth or shortly after.

John Carbiener probably had five children from his marriage to Salomi before she died in 1956:

Salomi (10/14/1844 Alsace, France)
▪ John (1847 Alsace, France)
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George (1848 Alsace, France)
Marie (1849, Alsace, France)
▪ Daniel (1/18/1853, St. Joseph Co. IN)

+John Carbiener had a son John born 1/18/1847 in Wurttemberg near Strasburg, Alsace, Germany, and died 11/23/1924 at the home of his son Joseph in Sumption Prairie). [Strasbourg, Alsace, was about 30 miles from the French border. In 1847, Alsace was under French rule. Wurttemberg is the German state that borders Alsace.] In 1870 Census, this son John is listed as age 22 and living/working on the farm of Andrew Longley. See more information later under Catherine Buhler and Fredericka Soloma "Hattie" Buhler, who married this John Carbiener.

John and Salomi brought Salomi, George and Marie from France to New York City on the ship GALLIA on May 9, 1850. (We don't know why son John was left behind and emigrated around 1853.) They settled in Ohio for about four years, and in 1854 came to Union Twp., St. Joseph Co. IN.

His wife Salomi died in 1856, and he then married Catharine Zinzinca Vollmer Ott Walmer. The children of John Carbiener and Catharine Vollmer are listed separately with more detail on the next web page. Click on the "Catharine Walmer" link below to continue.
 


click on "catharine walmer" tab below to trace
the descendants of john carbiener and his second wife

click on "catharine buhler" tab below to trace
the lineage of samuel's wife, catharine buhler

click on "samuel carbiener" tab below to trace
the descendants of samuel and catharine carbiener

click on "ruth carbiener" tab below for more photos of
the descendants of ruth carbiener and arthur johnson


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